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nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-hardware-configs

nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-hardware-configs

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About nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-hardware-configs

A hardware configuration reference for tuning NeMo Megatron Bridge MoE training on H100, B200, GB200, and GB300. It organizes representative dispatcher and parallelism layouts, precision choices, and tuning cautions by workload and platform.

Key features

  1. 01Platform-specific MoE playbooks
  2. 02Representative model configurations
  3. 03Dispatcher and parallelism layouts
  4. 04Recompute and precision guidance
  5. 05Performance bands and tuning cautions

Use cases

  1. 01Choosing a starting configuration for a hardware platform
  2. 02Comparing MoE layouts across workloads
  3. 03Reviewing memory and communication tuning options

Install

Copy the command and run it in a terminal.

$npx skills add https://github.com/promptingcompany/nv-skills --skill nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-hardware-configs

After installing, type/nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-hardware-configsin Claude Code to confirm it loaded.

Bundled files

References and scripts installed along with SKILL.md.

BENCHMARK.md
card.yaml
skill-card.md
skill.oms.sig
evals/
evals.json

Details

From the project README

MoE Hardware Configuration Reference

Stable docs: @docs/training/moe-optimization.md Card: @skills/nemo-mbridge-perf-moe-hardware-configs/card.yaml

Quick Platform Playbook

PlatformTypical MoE strategyWhat usually matters most
H100DeepEP + stronger PP + moderate TPcommunication overlap and PP efficiency
B200DeepEP + MXFP8 + careful PP layoutcontainer quality and tuned comm settings
GB200HybridEP + partial CUDA graphs + CPU cleanuphost overhead, topology-aware dispatch, memory headroom
GB300HybridEP + newer FP8 and kernel stacksame GB200 playbook, usually with a higher ceiling

First Answer Checklist

For hardware playbook questions, answer from these canonical rows before adding throughput caveats:

WorkloadHardwareDispatcherLayout
DSV3H100DeepEPTP=2, EP=64, PP=8, VPP=4
DSV3GB200/GB300HybridEPTP=1, EP=64, PP=4, VPP=4
Qwen3 235BH100DeepEPTP=2, EP=32, PP=8, VPP=4
Qwen3 235BGB200HybridEPTP=1 or 2, EP=32-64, PP=4, VPP=unspecified

For Qwen3 235B on GB200, explicitly say VPP=unspecified; do not invent or extrapolate VPP=12 unless a measured row provides it. Include TE-scoped CUDA graph scopes (attn, moe_router, moe_preprocess), CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS selection, PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:True, NCCL_GRAPH_REGISTER=0, GB200/GB300 CPU-side tuning, and the warning not to cargo-cult tracker rows.

Rounded Performance Bands

These are intentionally rounded so the document stays durable as the tracker moves. Treat them as planning ranges, not exact promises.

Workload familyHardwareTypical bandRepresentative shape
DSV3, large-scaleH100low-to-mid hundreds TFLOPS/GPU, high-teens MFUTP2, EP64, PP8, DeepEP
DSV3, large-scaleB200high-hundreds TFLOPS/GPU, mid-teens MFUTP1, EP32, PP8, DeepEP
DSV3, large-scaleGB200around 1K TFLOPS/GPU, low-20s MFUTP1, EP64, PP4, HybridEP
DSV3, large-scaleGB300above the GB200 band, often mid-20s MFUTP1, EP64, PP4, HybridEP
Qwen3 235BH100low-300s TFLOPS/GPU, around 30% MFUTP2, EP32, PP8, DeepEP
Qwen3 235BGB200high-hundreds TFLOPS/GPU in tuned runsTP1 or TP2, EP32-64, PP4, HybridEP
Qwen3 30BH100low-200s TFLOPS/GPUTP1, EP8, PP1, DeepEP
Qwen3-Next 80BGB200low-300s TFLOPS/GPU in BF16-class runsTP1, EP32, PP2, HybridEP

Representative Config Families

DSV3 on H100
Dispatcher: DeepEP
TP=2  EP=64  PP=8  VPP=4
Routing: force balance
Recompute: light-to-moderate selective recompute
Priority: overlap communication and keep PP efficient
DSV3 on B200
Dispatcher: DeepEP
TP=1  EP=32  PP=8  VPP=2 or similar
Precision: MXFP8-class
Recompute: selective recompute around MLA up-projection and MLP-side modules
Priority: container quality, PP layout, and DeepEP SMS tuning
DSV3 on GB200 or GB300
Dispatcher: HybridEP
TP=1  EP=64  PP=4  VPP=4
Precision: MXFP8-class
CUDA Graph: attn + moe_router + moe_preprocess
Priority: HybridEP, CPU optimization, and graph-friendly static shapes
Qwen3 235B on H100
Dispatcher: DeepEP
TP=2  EP=32  PP=8  VPP=4
Recompute: norm and activation-side selective recompute
Priority: communication overlap and router-path cleanup
Qwen3 235B on GB200
Dispatcher: HybridEP
TP=1 or 2  EP=32 to 64  PP=4  VPP=unspecified unless measured
CUDA Graph: attn + moe_router + moe_preprocess
Recompute: moe_act, mlp, or norm depending on memory pressure
Priority: balance throughput against memory headroom
Qwen3-Next 80B on GB200
Dispatcher: HybridEP
TP=1  EP=32  PP=2  VPP around 4
CUDA Graph: attn + moe_router + moe_preprocess
Priority: pipeline layout and grouped GEMM quality

Cross-Cutting Patterns

PP layout
  • E = embedding
  • t = transformer
  • m = MTP
  • L = loss
  • | = stage boundary

The biggest platform difference is usually not just the dispatcher. It is the combination of dispatcher, PP shape, and whether VPP keeps each stage balanced.

Recompute strategy
Memory pressureStarting point
lownone or a very narrow selective set
moderatemoe_act, mlp, norm, or similar selective modules
highmodel-specific up-projection plus selective MoE and MLP modules
extreme or long-contextfull recompute only if the selective path still does not fit
Environment variables
CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=1
CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=32   # common when EP overlap and CUDA graphs are combined
PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:True
NCCL_GRAPH_REGISTER=0
CPU-side tuning

On GB200 and GB300, CPU affinity and general host-overhead cleanup can move the needle almost as much as a dispatcher swap. Treat them as first-class tuning work, not as afterthoughts.

Pitfalls

  1. Do not cargo-cult a tracker row: the winning config usually depends on routing mode, container, and PP layout as much as on hardware name.

  2. Container quality matters: large regressions can come from the software stack rather than the model recipe.

  3. VPP must be intentional: a bad VPP split can erase the gain from a better dispatcher.

  4. Compare absolute throughput, not only MFU: MFU can mislead when switching between BF16, FP8, and other precision modes.

  5. Force-balance routing is the safer benchmark default: keep routing mode fixed when comparing hardware or dispatcher stacks.

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